Tape 21, Side B
[Begin Tape 21, Side B]
So was he in any other movies?
There was some other movie, I can’t remember the name of it though; I think there was another movie, yeah, but I don’t know, don’t know what that was.
Tell me a little more about Dennis, because I know that he must have gone through a lot of changes between the time you saw him at the wedding and…
Yeah, he did, well I guess I hadn’t seen him much thereafter. I think I saw him once on the… well yeah, he remembers that I saw him, you know, probably late eighties, out on Sproul [Plaza]; he was all backpacked and I think he was planning to go to India: never made it, but I gave him fifty bucks, or something like that, that’s what he thinks. I don’t remember that exactly. But the next time I see him, last year, he is the assistant editor of the… damn: The Bay Area Reporter, big gay newspaper in, you know, free gay newspaper in San Francisco, and has been doing that for eight or nine years, been a reporter, he’s been a journalist and been gay. So I went over and talked to him a couple times; met him for lunch a couple times. He came over here a couple times, and he’s having a hard time of it because he has like stenosis, some back problems, and he really needs to… well, the solution that everybody’s giving him is surgery and he doesn’t want to do that unless he absolutely has to.
What’s the problem? Is it a nerve or…?
Stenosis is the accretion of spinal bone matter around the spinal nerve, like at the seventh or eighth vertebra or something like that.
So does it cause a lot of pain?
It causes a great deal of pain in any position, pain when you get up or get down, and it travels all the way down your legs, you know. He’s had a silicone shot that took a little bit of it away but he gets around. He’s lived in this residence hotel down in the Tenderloin for, you know, ten years; and he quit his job at the paper and now he’s on various kinds of disability and insurance and that sort of stuff. He gets around a bit but he fell and messed up his shoulder bone too, so he’s had a hell of a hard time of it: his whole life has been hard and keeps being hard, but, you know, his spirits are still more or less up; he still wants to go to India.
So that’s kind of a dream of his?
He knows lots of people. Yeah. He got into Tibetan Buddhism, especially the sub branch of it that has something to do with Dorje, the wrathful deity; these are the people who got into big trouble with the Dalai Lama because, you know, there’s some kind of schism there.
Oh, really?
Yeah. There was some flurry of this in the news a couple, a year or so ago.
What, the Dalai Lama doesn’t approve of…?
Doesn’t like these Dorje people because they’re too… yeah, for some reason. He’s not too into that but he, you know, he’s associated with that. He told me that during some of his lost time he was completely out of work and he kind of flipped: he went around in a robe thinking he was an incarnation of some Tibetan deity: he never spare changed but he would go around and bless people and maybe they would give him some money or something like that. So he’s in kind of a bind right now but he doesn’t want to…
Because of the health thing…?
Yeah, basically that’s it; it affects everything, you know, he’s got various kinds of drugs. He has all sorts of contacts in San Francisco: he knows all kinds of people low and high, and sometimes he goes up to Oregon, he knows some folks up there too.
Did he quit his job as a reporter and editor because of the health problems or…?
That was part of it. He thought that the work he was doing was exacerbating it. He’d just gotten tired. His beat was basically, you know, crimes, you know, gay bashing and that sort of stuff. He worked a city hall beat for a while but he was always the one they would turn to when awful things would happen to gay people, that was his specialty, and he’d ferret out the real truth of various slayings and so on. He just didn’t want to do that anymore; he just didn’t want any part of that.
It got to him after a while.
Yeah, plus something about the atmosphere of the paper made him… it was pretty good too; they had good benefits there, you know; he could have stayed there and just, you know, used up their benefits, but he quit. He just couldn’t stand it anymore.
Do you have any idea what happened to Pixie?
No. He told me once. It was a sad… he said there was… it didn’t work out and they had kind of a sad breakup. I don’t know what happened to Pixie the psychic nurse.
Did he… was it kind of a revelation; did he discover he was gay, you know, after the marriage or was it one…?
I don’t know; I don’t know about that; I don’t know how it happened. [Toff British accent] Jolly what, the man’s a Buddhist. It was the same sort of thing: Oh, I guess I’m gay. No, I don’t know how that worked, don’t know how that worked. Maybe he met somebody, you know, who sparked it off, something like that. I don’t know. Well the only other thing that I’ve done that I really wanted to… that really makes me feel happy, aside from surviving and, you know, sustaining more or less a rich loving relationship with another human being for, you know, nearly twenty years—more than twenty years, actually, yeah, on and off—is last summer I built a little deck. You were walking on it.
Yeah, right.
I just want to say that I’m really proud that I could have done that. I never could have expected that I would be able to do anything like that, but I did it pretty much single-handedly, with some advice, and, you know, it’s not very big but it’s got lots of tricky angles to it and it’s got stairs and it’s got lots of screws and I had to drill gigantic long holes into the house itself and anchor these gigantic bolts so I had to buy lots of tools and learn about lots of bolts and things like that, and of course my favorites are the Simpson Strong Tie Connectors, and that is a plug. With the Simpson Strong Tie Connectors, if you get just the right ones, your deck will build itself; you’ve just got to put ‘em in the right place.
So it sounds like all those things you had learned, I mean because you really had done all these kinds of work: construction and destruction and…
Yeah, destruction for sure, yeah, and, you know, putting things on top of other things, that was certainly… Now when we bought the house though I was really not for it, I mean we were only paying just nothing rent. The guy next door to us who owned the house, he was kind of a libertarian socialist minded guy and he would never gouge anybody, especially Tina who’d been living there as his best tenant for any number of years, so we hadn’t had a rent increase, it was like two twenty five a month or something like that for a whole house for, you know, ten or fifteen years: he never raised the rent. And so it came around time… I mean his wife was—he didn’t work, he was just around the house all the time: he had millions of projects going around the house, Marques: M-A-R-Q-U-E-S, Marques, and, you know, he grows orchids—he has prizewinning orchids—you know: he can do anything. And so when it came time to think about buying a house, I wasn’t ready for it; I said: Jeez, I don’t want to be fixing stuff all the—because, you know, all this stuff was his responsibility—I don’t want to be fixing stuff all the time; I hate yard work; I’ll have to dig things up, you know, the back yard will become ours, you know; we’ll have to worry about everything; and I wasn’t looking forward to it at all; I didn’t think it was a good idea; but since we’ve done it and I’m doing all these things: it’s wonderful! [laughter] I want more tools! I’ve turned into one of those: [ape grunts] Go down to Sears and…
You’re turning into a tool head… a gear head they call ‘em I guess.
That’s right. Two hundred fifty watt super amplified power [ape grunts].
[laughing] What’s that?
That’s that Tim Allen guy, Tim Allen comedian. He gets excited and turns into like a little ape when he goes into Sears, the Sears tool area, looking at all the different tools.
It’s a guy thing.
It’s a tool thing, yeah.
I was going to ask you too if over the years Tina had any particular response to various changes, I mean for instance when you were working in Periodicals and you were, it sounds like you were taking your work home with you a lot…
Yeah, I was.
Did she help you make decisions like: it’s time to get out of this job?
Nope, nope, well only indirectly, you know, in that there was some deleterious effect if nothing other than just time, you know, because I was spending so much time on it and I wanted to spend more time at home, you know, I was doing watercolors at the time and wanted to spend more time at that. I couldn’t read anything, couldn’t… but she was working…
Just because of concentration and…?
Time, just because no time. It’s kind of like now: since I’ve been in the ETU I haven’t been able to do anything but—you know, I’m taking advantage of my enthusiasm—I haven’t been able to do anything but computer stuff.
Because you’re working at home too.
Right, right, I’m trying to catch up.
Are you reading a lot of manuals?
Yeah, and learning lots of applications and trying to catch up with these young whippersnappers, who, you know, when it comes time for Alvin [Pollock] to learn a new application he just goes and gets a book, goes through it and does a few things: he’s got it. I have to go over and over and over ‘cause it’s not second nature.
Now who was it tried to get you into that: Rick Beaubien?
Rick Beaubien, yeah, many long years ago. Finally come around.
So you regret that you…?
Nope, no. For one thing the past isn’t real. Pictures do not prove the past is real; so I don’t regret a thing; I mean there’s no percentage in it, is there. There’s nothing you can do about it.
It’s all Photo Shop.
[Laughs] It’s all gone; it’s all gone; there’s nothing you can do about it. Everything’s happening right now, you know, even those memories of the things that seem to have happened in the past: they’re occurring right now; even dreams: we don’t really know our dreams, we only have the memories of our dreams and they are only experienced as they unfold in the present, so it’s all an illusion really, isn’t it?
Yes.
It’s all an illusion, but…
By god the man’s a Buddhist!
[Laughs] Yeah, so, you know, she was working also, working real weird late hours at Safeway, at markets during a lot of that time, so it wasn’t until she got a regular job that I realized how off kilter everything was because of my job.
So that must have been hard: you weren’t seeing too much of each other?
Right, no, yeah, it was kind of disruptive but it was, you know, that’s just the way it was, you know, and if I’ve figured out anything it’s: however it is is okay: however it is is how it is. It couldn’t be otherwise. It would be immoral for it to be otherwise. Doesn’t mean you can’t try to attempt to make it otherwise, but up until that moment that it actually is otherwise: it isn’t otherwise. So there’s no point in, you know, staking too much on that, on what isn’t.
And then once it’s a done deal, I mean, you know, like with the house: it sounds like you set up a pretty good frenzy of whining but [laughs] was it Tina just persisted and then…
No, you know, the logic of it was unassailable.
That the money… even though it would increase the amount of money you were spending every month on housing, at least you would be putting it into an investment rather than…
Exactly, plus the income tax deduction, the mortgage tax deduction, that’s very key to the whole thing. Plus then, you know, we’d also have more control. I mean they wouldn’t have objected if we did anything, but now Tina can have, you know… I mean he had a lot of his stuff stored in our back yard, we can kick all that shit out and plow it over and make a garden.
Just more control, more…
Yeah. Gotta unload that turkey. No, it doesn’t look like we probably ever will.
[Laughs] Really? Would you like to move?
Well like move to… Pacific Grove.
Really?
Yeah, like to move to Pacific Grove.
You want to?
Yeah! That would be great.
Do you want to retire?
No, I’d like to get some, maybe some, you know, used car business: that would be good: new and used cars.
You’re ready for a whole ‘nother life.
Yeah. Well if I could become a computer boy, you could take that anywhere, right?
That’s true.
Yeah, but I never will.
No, you don’t think so.
Nope, I’ll never catch up; I’ll just be… I’ll just be dabbling around the edges.
Yeah? because all those kids are ahead of us?
Yeah, it’s just, I mean what you have to learn if you’re starting more or less from scratch to get to the point where you could be a consultant or a freelancer… you would just never learn enough: by the time you’ve learned some stuff, everything will have changed.
Yeah, because of the way it evolves.
Yeah, yeah…. Hey hey hey! We’re done, huh [laughs].
I wish I’d… you know it’s funny because I didn’t come up with the dynamite last question because I never imagined that we’d ever finish [laughter].
Well, you know, this is like mid tape, right, so…
Yeah, jeez…
… if you think of something, you know, we could finish it off; I’m game.
Okay.
Yeah, if I think of something. I mean there are plenty of stories I haven’t told that I could; and I’ve also tried to paint a very positive picture of myself. I haven’t revealed hardly any of the nasty and awful things I’ve done.
Really? all the murders and back-stabbings.
Yeah, and slap fights and poisoned pen letters and all the reputations I’ve ruined and…
Not counting your own.
… and all the little people I’ve stepped on as I clawed my way to the top, and back down.
Was it lonely at the top?
That’s right, after I was in Serials Cataloging for some time as an LA IV, I wrote my job description up and got reclassified as an LA V, so I’m the only person in the library who’s been an LA V twice.
Uh huh.
That’s right: that’s my claim to fame. No, the three things… Let’s see, how about the four best things I did for the library: hired Jan Carter; got everybody in Periodicals reclassified… uh… uh… that’s it; that’s about it…
[Laughing] There are two kinds of people: those who can count…
… that’s about it… oh, I hired Henryk [Kubica], got Henryk on the payroll; ah… Pam Daniels; I didn’t get rid of anybody.
Oh really, so you’re responsible for hiring Henryk?
Yeah. That was interesting. Dena Schoen, who was the Cyrillic person at the time, she went up to Serials Cataloging, so we had a vacancy; I listed it and I got all these applicants, you know, again: Eastern European doctorates, and one guy who was on and on and on about Pushkin, he was talking on. And when I hired Henryk he filed a grievance that he should have been hired, and my answer was that all he did was go on and on about Pushkin.
Was that sufficient to take care of it?
Yeah, that was sufficient; that was it; that was sufficient.
We don’t hire these people. Okay, alright, well…
Yeah, you think of something, daddy-o.
I want to know about all the dirt.
[Laughs] Well we’ll have to do that off tape.
Okay.
[End Tape 21, Side B]
[End of last session]
So was he in any other movies?
There was some other movie, I can’t remember the name of it though; I think there was another movie, yeah, but I don’t know, don’t know what that was.
Tell me a little more about Dennis, because I know that he must have gone through a lot of changes between the time you saw him at the wedding and…
Yeah, he did, well I guess I hadn’t seen him much thereafter. I think I saw him once on the… well yeah, he remembers that I saw him, you know, probably late eighties, out on Sproul [Plaza]; he was all backpacked and I think he was planning to go to India: never made it, but I gave him fifty bucks, or something like that, that’s what he thinks. I don’t remember that exactly. But the next time I see him, last year, he is the assistant editor of the… damn: The Bay Area Reporter, big gay newspaper in, you know, free gay newspaper in San Francisco, and has been doing that for eight or nine years, been a reporter, he’s been a journalist and been gay. So I went over and talked to him a couple times; met him for lunch a couple times. He came over here a couple times, and he’s having a hard time of it because he has like stenosis, some back problems, and he really needs to… well, the solution that everybody’s giving him is surgery and he doesn’t want to do that unless he absolutely has to.
What’s the problem? Is it a nerve or…?
Stenosis is the accretion of spinal bone matter around the spinal nerve, like at the seventh or eighth vertebra or something like that.
So does it cause a lot of pain?
It causes a great deal of pain in any position, pain when you get up or get down, and it travels all the way down your legs, you know. He’s had a silicone shot that took a little bit of it away but he gets around. He’s lived in this residence hotel down in the Tenderloin for, you know, ten years; and he quit his job at the paper and now he’s on various kinds of disability and insurance and that sort of stuff. He gets around a bit but he fell and messed up his shoulder bone too, so he’s had a hell of a hard time of it: his whole life has been hard and keeps being hard, but, you know, his spirits are still more or less up; he still wants to go to India.
So that’s kind of a dream of his?
He knows lots of people. Yeah. He got into Tibetan Buddhism, especially the sub branch of it that has something to do with Dorje, the wrathful deity; these are the people who got into big trouble with the Dalai Lama because, you know, there’s some kind of schism there.
Oh, really?
Yeah. There was some flurry of this in the news a couple, a year or so ago.
What, the Dalai Lama doesn’t approve of…?
Doesn’t like these Dorje people because they’re too… yeah, for some reason. He’s not too into that but he, you know, he’s associated with that. He told me that during some of his lost time he was completely out of work and he kind of flipped: he went around in a robe thinking he was an incarnation of some Tibetan deity: he never spare changed but he would go around and bless people and maybe they would give him some money or something like that. So he’s in kind of a bind right now but he doesn’t want to…
Because of the health thing…?
Yeah, basically that’s it; it affects everything, you know, he’s got various kinds of drugs. He has all sorts of contacts in San Francisco: he knows all kinds of people low and high, and sometimes he goes up to Oregon, he knows some folks up there too.
Did he quit his job as a reporter and editor because of the health problems or…?
That was part of it. He thought that the work he was doing was exacerbating it. He’d just gotten tired. His beat was basically, you know, crimes, you know, gay bashing and that sort of stuff. He worked a city hall beat for a while but he was always the one they would turn to when awful things would happen to gay people, that was his specialty, and he’d ferret out the real truth of various slayings and so on. He just didn’t want to do that anymore; he just didn’t want any part of that.
It got to him after a while.
Yeah, plus something about the atmosphere of the paper made him… it was pretty good too; they had good benefits there, you know; he could have stayed there and just, you know, used up their benefits, but he quit. He just couldn’t stand it anymore.
Do you have any idea what happened to Pixie?
No. He told me once. It was a sad… he said there was… it didn’t work out and they had kind of a sad breakup. I don’t know what happened to Pixie the psychic nurse.
Did he… was it kind of a revelation; did he discover he was gay, you know, after the marriage or was it one…?
I don’t know; I don’t know about that; I don’t know how it happened. [Toff British accent] Jolly what, the man’s a Buddhist. It was the same sort of thing: Oh, I guess I’m gay. No, I don’t know how that worked, don’t know how that worked. Maybe he met somebody, you know, who sparked it off, something like that. I don’t know. Well the only other thing that I’ve done that I really wanted to… that really makes me feel happy, aside from surviving and, you know, sustaining more or less a rich loving relationship with another human being for, you know, nearly twenty years—more than twenty years, actually, yeah, on and off—is last summer I built a little deck. You were walking on it.
Yeah, right.
I just want to say that I’m really proud that I could have done that. I never could have expected that I would be able to do anything like that, but I did it pretty much single-handedly, with some advice, and, you know, it’s not very big but it’s got lots of tricky angles to it and it’s got stairs and it’s got lots of screws and I had to drill gigantic long holes into the house itself and anchor these gigantic bolts so I had to buy lots of tools and learn about lots of bolts and things like that, and of course my favorites are the Simpson Strong Tie Connectors, and that is a plug. With the Simpson Strong Tie Connectors, if you get just the right ones, your deck will build itself; you’ve just got to put ‘em in the right place.
So it sounds like all those things you had learned, I mean because you really had done all these kinds of work: construction and destruction and…
Yeah, destruction for sure, yeah, and, you know, putting things on top of other things, that was certainly… Now when we bought the house though I was really not for it, I mean we were only paying just nothing rent. The guy next door to us who owned the house, he was kind of a libertarian socialist minded guy and he would never gouge anybody, especially Tina who’d been living there as his best tenant for any number of years, so we hadn’t had a rent increase, it was like two twenty five a month or something like that for a whole house for, you know, ten or fifteen years: he never raised the rent. And so it came around time… I mean his wife was—he didn’t work, he was just around the house all the time: he had millions of projects going around the house, Marques: M-A-R-Q-U-E-S, Marques, and, you know, he grows orchids—he has prizewinning orchids—you know: he can do anything. And so when it came time to think about buying a house, I wasn’t ready for it; I said: Jeez, I don’t want to be fixing stuff all the—because, you know, all this stuff was his responsibility—I don’t want to be fixing stuff all the time; I hate yard work; I’ll have to dig things up, you know, the back yard will become ours, you know; we’ll have to worry about everything; and I wasn’t looking forward to it at all; I didn’t think it was a good idea; but since we’ve done it and I’m doing all these things: it’s wonderful! [laughter] I want more tools! I’ve turned into one of those: [ape grunts] Go down to Sears and…
You’re turning into a tool head… a gear head they call ‘em I guess.
That’s right. Two hundred fifty watt super amplified power [ape grunts].
[laughing] What’s that?
That’s that Tim Allen guy, Tim Allen comedian. He gets excited and turns into like a little ape when he goes into Sears, the Sears tool area, looking at all the different tools.
It’s a guy thing.
It’s a tool thing, yeah.
I was going to ask you too if over the years Tina had any particular response to various changes, I mean for instance when you were working in Periodicals and you were, it sounds like you were taking your work home with you a lot…
Yeah, I was.
Did she help you make decisions like: it’s time to get out of this job?
Nope, nope, well only indirectly, you know, in that there was some deleterious effect if nothing other than just time, you know, because I was spending so much time on it and I wanted to spend more time at home, you know, I was doing watercolors at the time and wanted to spend more time at that. I couldn’t read anything, couldn’t… but she was working…
Just because of concentration and…?
Time, just because no time. It’s kind of like now: since I’ve been in the ETU I haven’t been able to do anything but—you know, I’m taking advantage of my enthusiasm—I haven’t been able to do anything but computer stuff.
Because you’re working at home too.
Right, right, I’m trying to catch up.
Are you reading a lot of manuals?
Yeah, and learning lots of applications and trying to catch up with these young whippersnappers, who, you know, when it comes time for Alvin [Pollock] to learn a new application he just goes and gets a book, goes through it and does a few things: he’s got it. I have to go over and over and over ‘cause it’s not second nature.
Now who was it tried to get you into that: Rick Beaubien?
Rick Beaubien, yeah, many long years ago. Finally come around.
So you regret that you…?
Nope, no. For one thing the past isn’t real. Pictures do not prove the past is real; so I don’t regret a thing; I mean there’s no percentage in it, is there. There’s nothing you can do about it.
It’s all Photo Shop.
[Laughs] It’s all gone; it’s all gone; there’s nothing you can do about it. Everything’s happening right now, you know, even those memories of the things that seem to have happened in the past: they’re occurring right now; even dreams: we don’t really know our dreams, we only have the memories of our dreams and they are only experienced as they unfold in the present, so it’s all an illusion really, isn’t it?
Yes.
It’s all an illusion, but…
By god the man’s a Buddhist!
[Laughs] Yeah, so, you know, she was working also, working real weird late hours at Safeway, at markets during a lot of that time, so it wasn’t until she got a regular job that I realized how off kilter everything was because of my job.
So that must have been hard: you weren’t seeing too much of each other?
Right, no, yeah, it was kind of disruptive but it was, you know, that’s just the way it was, you know, and if I’ve figured out anything it’s: however it is is okay: however it is is how it is. It couldn’t be otherwise. It would be immoral for it to be otherwise. Doesn’t mean you can’t try to attempt to make it otherwise, but up until that moment that it actually is otherwise: it isn’t otherwise. So there’s no point in, you know, staking too much on that, on what isn’t.
And then once it’s a done deal, I mean, you know, like with the house: it sounds like you set up a pretty good frenzy of whining but [laughs] was it Tina just persisted and then…
No, you know, the logic of it was unassailable.
That the money… even though it would increase the amount of money you were spending every month on housing, at least you would be putting it into an investment rather than…
Exactly, plus the income tax deduction, the mortgage tax deduction, that’s very key to the whole thing. Plus then, you know, we’d also have more control. I mean they wouldn’t have objected if we did anything, but now Tina can have, you know… I mean he had a lot of his stuff stored in our back yard, we can kick all that shit out and plow it over and make a garden.
Just more control, more…
Yeah. Gotta unload that turkey. No, it doesn’t look like we probably ever will.
[Laughs] Really? Would you like to move?
Well like move to… Pacific Grove.
Really?
Yeah, like to move to Pacific Grove.
You want to?
Yeah! That would be great.
Do you want to retire?
No, I’d like to get some, maybe some, you know, used car business: that would be good: new and used cars.
You’re ready for a whole ‘nother life.
Yeah. Well if I could become a computer boy, you could take that anywhere, right?
That’s true.
Yeah, but I never will.
No, you don’t think so.
Nope, I’ll never catch up; I’ll just be… I’ll just be dabbling around the edges.
Yeah? because all those kids are ahead of us?
Yeah, it’s just, I mean what you have to learn if you’re starting more or less from scratch to get to the point where you could be a consultant or a freelancer… you would just never learn enough: by the time you’ve learned some stuff, everything will have changed.
Yeah, because of the way it evolves.
Yeah, yeah…. Hey hey hey! We’re done, huh [laughs].
I wish I’d… you know it’s funny because I didn’t come up with the dynamite last question because I never imagined that we’d ever finish [laughter].
Well, you know, this is like mid tape, right, so…
Yeah, jeez…
… if you think of something, you know, we could finish it off; I’m game.
Okay.
Yeah, if I think of something. I mean there are plenty of stories I haven’t told that I could; and I’ve also tried to paint a very positive picture of myself. I haven’t revealed hardly any of the nasty and awful things I’ve done.
Really? all the murders and back-stabbings.
Yeah, and slap fights and poisoned pen letters and all the reputations I’ve ruined and…
Not counting your own.
… and all the little people I’ve stepped on as I clawed my way to the top, and back down.
Was it lonely at the top?
That’s right, after I was in Serials Cataloging for some time as an LA IV, I wrote my job description up and got reclassified as an LA V, so I’m the only person in the library who’s been an LA V twice.
Uh huh.
That’s right: that’s my claim to fame. No, the three things… Let’s see, how about the four best things I did for the library: hired Jan Carter; got everybody in Periodicals reclassified… uh… uh… that’s it; that’s about it…
[Laughing] There are two kinds of people: those who can count…
… that’s about it… oh, I hired Henryk [Kubica], got Henryk on the payroll; ah… Pam Daniels; I didn’t get rid of anybody.
Oh really, so you’re responsible for hiring Henryk?
Yeah. That was interesting. Dena Schoen, who was the Cyrillic person at the time, she went up to Serials Cataloging, so we had a vacancy; I listed it and I got all these applicants, you know, again: Eastern European doctorates, and one guy who was on and on and on about Pushkin, he was talking on. And when I hired Henryk he filed a grievance that he should have been hired, and my answer was that all he did was go on and on about Pushkin.
Was that sufficient to take care of it?
Yeah, that was sufficient; that was it; that was sufficient.
We don’t hire these people. Okay, alright, well…
Yeah, you think of something, daddy-o.
I want to know about all the dirt.
[Laughs] Well we’ll have to do that off tape.
Okay.
[End Tape 21, Side B]
[End of last session]
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